want them to continue to respect their treaty commitments under the camp david accords for peace with israel, for being one of the places from which a lot of economic growth for the region can happen, but we also want to celebrate their movement towards democracy. mubarak was an autocrat, was somebody who suppressed his people, and prevented free speech and an open society. so we have these twin tensions, as we look at the development of the last two years in tunisia, in libya, and in egypt. as you said at the outset of this segment, one of the big challenges we now face with incidents in benghazi, in algeria, and in mali, is how the instability in libya and egypt have now led to more weapons, more money, and more islamic extremists and jihadists destabilizing others in the region. we're in for a very rough ride. >> and i wanted to talk about that with you. "the washington post" editorial page had an interesting point today, saying that secretary clinton really conveyed the seriousness of what was happening in north africa, while the obama administration was being a little bit reluctant in t